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2011 Co-op BudgetNov 09, 2010


What is your co-ops 2011 budget looking like?

What is driving it, this year?

What is the projected amount of maintenance increase?

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Re: 2011 Co-op Budget - VP11104 Nov 09, 2010


Local Law 11 is one big factor this upcoming year.

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Re: 2011 Co-op Budget - Anonymous Nov 09, 2010


We are treating LL 11 as "capital".

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Re: 2011 Co-op Budget - ~AR Nov 11, 2010


I am not an accountant, but to my knowledge, LL 11 is not typically a capital expence as it is maitenance, if you couple the work with some desired improvement you may be able to work it in.


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Repair work - AdC Nov 12, 2010


You're absolutely right! Local 11 is maintenance work and payment of taxes indicates on the work that this is maintenance.

I think the idea persists that if greater than $5K, it must be capital expense.

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Re: 2011 Co-op Budget - ~AR Nov 11, 2010


Great question.. Like to see more answers!

I am doing budgets for about 17 buil;dings right now and my average increase this year is 5-7%.. last year was much higher.

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Re: 2011 Co-op Budget - DavidG Nov 11, 2010


We are in the process of reviewing our current budget and planning for 2011. We continue to see a rise in utility, water/sewer and labor costs. We also have the potential based on today’s oil price for higher energy costs in the future, along with continuing need to meet regulatory requirements – water backflow preventers, elevator code changes, local law 11, and new green laws. Discussions about maintenance /assessments are underway.

Add in the following factors, we have seen a sharp rise in arrears since July with no return to normalization expected until at least Q1 2011, and it hinders our ability to raise the funds for operations or capital improvements.

We also have some major façade and terrace work that needs to be completed – a refinance of our underlying mortgage can not be completed until 2012 due to a lock out period, so we will be under stress and probably pay higher rates to obtain alternative funding.

One last factor we have in our building that impacts our decision making– lack of resident shareholders living in the building:
We have 57 apartments (29 sponsors) 28 purchasing shareholders
Out of the 28 purchasing shareholders. (5 have relatives living there and 4 are being sublet and 2 are empty as the families live here part time) we are down to 17 (29.9%) apartments that actually owned and occupied by purchasing shareholders.

This makes it much more difficult to educate shareholders about our financial needs and improvements to the building and raise maintenance and assessments.

So where does that leave us…. We will probably raise the maintenance a nominal amount and need an assessment, but very well may not be around to implement the proper budgeting and use of funds.

If anyone has any thoughts or comments, please let me know.

Thanks

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