Does he live in the building? That's $250 per week without an apartment. Maybe he only has time to do the hallways once per week, there has to be a reason why he can't do it twice per as requested.

Uh, I would not think part time super's live in the building. If so, then he should be paying rent. I only know of full time super's to be living rent free. Anyway, $1,000 should be appropriate.

Part time supers do live in some buildings and they work a regular job, in addition to getting a free apartment they receive a small salary.

We have one live-super and two porters for our 111 unit three building complex. We decided to amend our union contract by paying $.50 extra per hour to get extra cleaning, minor spot painting and other additional items. I have found that if you want extra services (from what the expectations are), paying a little extra for them builds goodwill between staff and management/Boards.

Thank you all for your response.
The super does not live in our building.
He takes care of another where he has been given an apartment.
He was given instruction on job duties & agreed to carry them out. That is not happening, we have to keep asking or pointing out what needs attending.
How much an hour is the going rate?

Hi,

Our Union rates (Ft George area of Manhattan) are $17.975/hr for the live in Super and $16.98 for a porter.

Thank you, any idea what it is for a live out super?

Just ran across this Habitat piece about managing part-time supers:

http://habitatmag.com/earlier_issues/2005_december/web_exclusive_adaptations/managing_part_time_supers

1000.00 is definitely adequate to do the hallways twice a week. The supers duty is to make sure that everything is done properly even if it means washing the floor three times a week.

My sentiments exactly!
Thank you for our help

I have shared supers that earn less than that and clean up to 4 buildings 2+ times a week.
Create a job description & agreement for him to sign and adhere to and inform him that it is not negotiable. Do not be afraid to replace him, there are thousands of people willing to fill the shoes.

You can email me if you would like a simple sample agreement that i made & use.

Best
~AR

Thank you AR, I would like a copy of that letter.
e-mail: ahiggins6@nyc.rr.com

just make sure thePDF didnt get sent to spam

~AR

Hi AR,
We have a pt super who is paid $450 a month for 12 apts. He lives far away and is not handy in terms of being hired by tenants to make small repairs they would pay for. Sometimes we need someone to let vendors in for repairs and he can't be depended upon to do that. We get many sanitation tickets for the curbs not being swept of debris in the mornings. We've identified interested super replace,ent candidates who are live in supers on the block, and willing and able to do more than the current one does for the same money. Now some board members are feeling badly firing him "until he finds another job." Is this reasonable? And, is paying $450 a month for someone to bag garbage three times a week, clean the halls of a brownstone once a week, and nothing else reasonable? Thanks for your advice.

The price you are paying is certainly fair for the tasks required.

As you have discovered, there are many qualified people out there willing and able to take it on...

(I am assuming this is not his primary source of income)

Do they realize that they are paying the citations, added costs because of inattention to the boiler on a daily basis and an all around derogation of services? What if there is an accident and lawsuit because the sidewalk was not cleaned in a timely manner?
This amounts to much more than just $450 per month in aggregate.

I would feel bad also since it is obviously not an adversarial layoff, but you have to think of your bottom line and make that priority. Possibly once you have someone lined up, give him a parting gift to ease the pain...

Hopefully after about a month, he will have been forgotten when they are singing praises of the new hire...

Just to summarize.. feeling bad is a good and humane emotion, but as a Board member,make decisions in a fiduciary manner...

Happy New Year

~AR

Thanks, AR. I'll pass on your insights to my board. Just curious: what daily duties does a super normally have with regard to the boiler? I'd like to add that to the list of duties we will need to draw up.