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attorneys for shareholdersNov 01, 2013

i have seen many articles w2here the attorneys are mainly working for the board or managing company. I have seen articles in the cooperatoe where the answer was slanted towards the boars/sponsor /managing company, they conveniently left out the option of the shareholders ability to call for a special meeting if they get the number of votes stated in the bylaws. Plus the attorneys i have talked to , worked primary for the board,
Also even in the habitat , the info one attorney has in print concerning getting fellow shareholder address info, is not what the attorney general states in their web site..
Are there any Attorney that mainly work for the shareholders?
looking for westchester here.

Also if there is no quorum at the annual meeting and 2 spots are up for reelection, are the incumbents automatically reelected

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which for edit button - hudsonse Nov 01, 2013

sorry my spell check didn't highlight the above mess and i cant fix it.

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Lawyers for Shareholders - Gerard Grosof Nov 04, 2013

I have been looking for the same type of lawyers, and I am afraid they don't exist. Anyway, I decided to throw in some money for the finding such rarities, by placing ads in legal publications. Please give me your email, and I will include you in the result of my research. CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR COOP REFORM - g5grosof@outlook.com -

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Unavailable Mailbox - Interested Shareholder Nov 08, 2013

Hi Gerard,

I tried writing to you at your email address to receive the results of your research, but the email bounced back with this error message:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

g5grosof@outlook.com

Final-Recipient: rfc822;g5grosof@outlook.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable (2038705067:3902:-2147467259)
Is there another email address to reach you?
Thanks.

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Looking for Lawyers friendly to shareholders - Gerard Grosof Nov 11, 2013

My email is constantly hacked ever since I formed CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR COOP REFORM. Please try g5grosof@msn.com, or carminis@msn.com. I am definitely going to spend some money looking for lawyers who are on our side, not the "industry". I will find them and train them, and form a legal clinic for downtrodden coop owners withtout rights and without recourse under the present judiciary system. This is an abomination.

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lawyers - Dianne Stromfeld Nov 12, 2013

In addition to lawyers we need to get behind the ombudsman bills that have been languishing in Albany. Sen. Liz Krueger has one. Let us get our voices and clout behind our elected officials to do something to help us when things go wrong. Perhaps we can get enough co op shareholders to become unified in support of this type of bill. Unfortunately it is the board of our communities that claims to speak for us, even when we are almost paralyzed when trying to unseat them. We must unify and fight for this type of bill if we are to ever have control of our own destinies.

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we are powerful if we work together - Rosa Nazar Nov 13, 2013

You are right and we are doing it. Before politicians ignore us. Now we are meeting with them. We are voting and electing politiians who are wiiling to work with us. We have no right in housing neither in bankrutcy courts. We are treated as second class citizens. EMAIL ME AT ROSA.NAZAR@GMAIL.COM and register at COOPABUSE.COM to fight together.

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lawyers - Dianne Stromfeld Nov 14, 2013

I looked at the website and it is quite interesting and informative. Do you have any participation in Queens? There are a considerable number of co ops in the boro and many are upscale with shareholders who might be interested in pursuing the cause.

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COOPABUSE.COM REP IN QUEENS. - ROSA NAZAR Nov 14, 2013

Yes we do. I live in the Bronx. Today we, representatives from 4 boroughs, had a meeting with layers from Darryl C. Towns, Commissioner/CEO of the New York State Division of Homes & Community Renewal to discuss the lack of laws to protect the home of coop home owner. It was very interesting how unaware politicians are of what is going on. You can email from coopabuse,com to find out the contact. Or email me at ROSA.NAZAR@GMAIL.COM and I will get you send you the email of the person in charge of the organization. We are making progress. Register in COOPABUSE.COM to get info. You only need to give them your email. By the way people from long Island and Westchester are joining our organization. The problem with coops is huge.

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false alegations bought on by the president of the board. - daisy kelly Dec 23, 2013

although I am new to being a shareholderI feel that all sharholders should try to come together and form a rally to stop these board members and do away with cerin articiles. This is how we can get the news involved My story is long but I have plenty to say..

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we are powerful if we work together - Rosa Nazar Nov 13, 2013

You are right and we are doing it. Before politicians ignore us. Now we are meeting with them. We are voting and electing politiians who are wiiling to work with us. We have no right in housing neither in bankrutcy courts. We are treated as second class citizens. EMAIL ME AT ROSA.NAZAR@GMAIL.COM and register at COOPABUSE.COM to fight together.

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Looking for Lawyers friendly to shareholders - Gerard Grosof Nov 11, 2013

My email is constantly hacked ever since I formed CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR COOP REFORM. Please try g5grosof@msn.com, or carminis@msn.com. I am definitely going to spend some money looking for lawyers who are on our side, not the "industry". I will find them and train them, and form a legal clinic for downtrodden coop owners withtout rights and without recourse under the present judiciary system. This is an abomination.

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Re-election - www.thecoopblog.com Nov 05, 2013

We always suggest that you need to get a quorum and take over the board if you want you building be run for the shareholders. Once you have majority, you can change lawyers and make sure they and the board work "for the shareholders."
If you need suggestions on how to get a quorum and a board slate together, feel free to email me at tina@thecoopblog.com

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elections are fixed - escapefromyonkers Nov 16, 2013

the mang comp came in 1996,approx, and with a person who they said was the bldg lawyer,stated that the state had changed the law and outlawed cumulative voting and we could no longer combine votes or split them ,like we had for the last 12 plus years.
building is less than 60% owner occupied,and thet sell to people and say it is 90% Owner Occupied
AG , DA westchester were contacted as per ny times Q&A in coops about this, the DA refused to look into this criminal matter.
original plan was fraud buyers too.

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Lawyers are part of the Coop conspiracy - Carmen Bejarano Nov 17, 2013

Lawyers lie all the time, and shamelessly take advantage of the shareholders' lack of expertise in the law. In our case, in this year annual meeting, we demanded a ballot election (we never had ballot elections before, only "acclamations"), the lawyer told the board to forbid us to post our campaign material, (bio & platform), none of the perennial directors released any biographical material, refused even to disclose where they live or their email addresses. One shareholder asked how many times can they be re-elected (they have been there for 25 years, originally selected by the Sponsor), and Coop lawyer answered that "there is nothing in the Proprietary Lease forbidding their re-elections, therefore, they would be there forever". This lawyer also sent me a letter threatening termination & eviction for "objectionable conduct", for having tried to organize the tenant-shareholders, educate them, sign petitions, etc...(Tina, of the coopblog, lives in a phantasy world if she thnks this can be done with impunity, it has never happened and never will, because the Sponsors dominates the Coop).
In another case that I have personal experience, the Coop lawyer confiscated my apartment without going to court and sold it in public auction...4 TIMES! Everytime we had to go to his office to pay him money to get our apt back. The 5th time he did it, I refused to pay, and he proceeded with eviction. This time I sued him back, the judge ruled in my favor, told him he cannot do extra-judicial terminations, ordered to restore ownership, return all the money I had paid in lawyers fees to the Coop lawyer ($14,000) and to also pay my lawyer's fees.
This perpetrator of extra-judicial confiscations is a prominent lawyer whose , his firm at the time was a well-known 5th ave firm doing 60 of these extra judicial confiscations per year. The lawyer still answer Q&A questions for the NY Times Real Estate section...And perhaps continues with his criminal confiscations to this very day, with hapless shareholders who have no access to lawyers to defend them. Coops are enclaves of lawlessness and criminality, they are like a mafia.
In my experience, all coop lawyers are crooks, and involved in a criminal conspiracy with Coop boards,Sponsors & Managing Agents, to deprive shareholders of all of their rights, and exploit them mercilessly The whole coop system is a vast conspiracy, that has to be prosecuted under the R.I.C.O. act. Or in a class action by shareholders, which is what we are working on now. Join us! Carmen Bejarano. Concerned Citizens for Coop Reform. P.O. Box 568 - Bronx NY 10463

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documenting - escapefromyonkers Nov 18, 2013

a gopro video camera on a chest mount is a grat way to document the lies/fraud that you board members,managing agent say at annual meeting.
meeting is usually on your property, and if it is common area, you can video taped. last meeting the board called the cops on me, cops came said i had to leave, i told the cops ,no, i will not leave, this is my property, this is a common area and this is my annual meeting, the cops backed down,
still trying to find a lawyer for all the fraud,embezzlement,mortgage fraud, all of which the AG and DA in Westchester will not take on.
lawyers i have talked too were board type lawyers, evn though they advertise as shareholder here.

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conspiracy yes, my building yes, florida condo balcony fraud 1st tipoff - escapefromyonkers Nov 18, 2013

i saw an article i think in the ny times about 6 years ago concerning people with criminal intent buying a co/op condo. they would then run for the board, the bldg had been checked to be a non owner involved bldg before they bought. they may have had a confederate also buy a couple of months klatter.this person would also get on the board.
They would then have a conspirator do an inspection of the balconies, probably 100 plus per building, and maybe 2 or 3 buildings in the condo/coop.the inspector would point out the rust at the balcony attachment point and dig out some material, so it looked to the non informed owners that th balconies were in danger of collapsing. The criminals on the board now used their power to back up their confederate inspector and would hire a company, that was involved in this fraud for $$$$$ to fix the balconies,that in reality had nothing but visual rust, and were not structural compromised. The coop would pay huge amounts to get the balconies fixed, and the workers would just do a rustoleum and spackle type job, meanwhile billing for whole attachment of balcony.
this would happen in building after building, these people would see and work their con/kickback game on the next carefully selected building.
It fell apart when one of the owners of the condo, was a retired bldg inspector or had performed this work his whole life, and saw that it was a pure scam, He knew that the problems being pointed out as structural were purely cosmetic and unlike NY, the state got involved, maybe feds with rico act too. .
this is has been happening in this coop, the management company is a co-conspirator.

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Corruption - Judy Dec 24, 2013

Since this corruption is so prevalent all over the state, kudos to Rosa and others who are trying to make a difference. Why not plan a massive protest at the AG’s office in early Spring?

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we are powerful if we fight together - Rosa Nazar Dec 25, 2013

The only way to win and get laws pass to protect our home is if we stay and fight together. They try to tell us that it is an isolated incident; it is not. Politicians are publicc servants and need to hear and do something for us. The first step is not to let them intimidate you. Register in COOPABUSE.COM or send me and email at ROSA.NAZAR@MAIL.COM and keep talking and writing about the problems. They need to stop telling us it is an isolated incident. Send me an email and I will keep you up on what we are doing. Yes we are planning a demostration and we need help from all of you. This is America we can't let them treat us the coop home owner as second class citizens. YES WE CAN.

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