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Doncha have board defined buying rules and ratios.May 08, 2010


So the parents are paying for the apartment. This means they are gifting the apartment and thus one may ask that they file a notarized letter to that effect? Was a "gift" letter requested. Don't forget gifts are subject to IRS rules.

Are the parents gifting the maintenance? If yes, are they living in the apartment? If no, then in our co-op its not permitted.

Without going through ratios, let me assert that anyone buying a unit in our co-op must have a gross annual salary of $50,000. If two are in the apartment and both are working then the "base" it higher.

Regardless, one may not have annual expenses that exceed 30% of one's gross income. Thus in this case its $13,200 (maintenance) + assessments + electrical; costs + natural gas costs, education costs + + +).

If one moves into the building with or without a mortgage, our rules stipulate there is no new mortgage or refinancing within the first five years following the sale.

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"Gifting" an apartment - BP May 09, 2010


A poster here said if parents gift an apt (and mention was made of their paying the maintenance too) - that "one may ask that they file a notarized letter to that effect".

I was in notarization/mortage holding work for years. Many people mistakenly think that notarizing a document means that the signer agrees to comply with any promise made in the document or that any statement made in the document is true.

Having a letter or whatever notarized is verification that the signer is who he says he is - nothing more. It doesn't bind the signer to anything that he agrees to or states just by virtue of the fact that the document is notarized.

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Good point, re Notarization - TT May 09, 2010


Ask for a copy of the IRS gift form....By the way we have sometimes asked an applicant to sign a form that allows us to obtain the 1040 etc. information direct from the IRS. We do this when there is a fish smell to the application. 99 of 100 times, the fish mongers refuse.

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Gifting - EK May 10, 2010


In our coop even if an apt is gifted the occupant has to have a documentable income. If the parents are going to pay the maintenance then they have to be co-purchasers with full Board pkgs submitted.

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Bravo - TT May 10, 2010


Great note!!

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