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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase/Assessment: Real Data on Property Value?Feb 04, 2016

I've been reading a bit about the choice between raising funds through a flip tax v. assessments/maintenance increases. I'm curious whether there is any data on whether one option is preferable in terms of property value. Some articles/posts I read says that flip taxes depress sale value more than assessments or maintenance increases. Other articles make the opposite claim. None point to any data.

I would think that someone out there has done a study about this and looked to actual effects on property value. Any ideas?

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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase/Assessment - Curious Feb 05, 2016

A Flip Tax also known as a Transfer Fee brings money into the building and is certainly better than an increase in maintenance. There is a % that a board can choose. An assessment is basically for a longer term project that generally expires in approximately 1 to 2 years to pay for a particular project. What I have experienced so far is my understanding.

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Flip Tax vs. Maintenance increase/assessment - JG in NYC Feb 05, 2016

We charge a flat $500 flip tax on sales to add a few dollars to the reserves each year. We have been doing an assessment annually, approximating the annual coop abatements/star/senior/vet credits granted by the city and state. It helps keep the maintenance down without taking extra money out of everyone's pockets.

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Flip Tax vs. Maintenance increase/assessment - Curious Feb 06, 2016

Instead of a $500.00 flip tax there should be a % which would most likely bring in more revenue to the building. What is the reason for doing an assessment annually? That's a little much. I agree in keeping maintenance down, but doing annual assessments is almost the same thing as maintenance increases, as far as I can see. We have a 1% Transfer Fee on a sale, some buildings have a 2% which can be paid by the seller or broker or split between both. The % is the % of the sale price. If you sell an apartment for $400,000, the Fee coming to the building would be $4000.00. That's better than a flat fee of $500.00. What do you think?

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Flip Tax - GG101 Feb 11, 2016

Do most buildings exempt both or either sponsor owned units when the sponsor sells that unit and/or original shareholders (commonly called insiders) of the flip tax? If yes, can the 'rule' be changed to now charge them?

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Flip Tax - GG101 - JG in NYC Feb 12, 2016

Generally, the prospectus allows the sponsor to transfer shares to a buyer without incurring any fees from the coop corporation. So, they are basically exempt from paying it. You could still charge the flip tax and collect it from the buyer. Nothing says the tax must be paid by the seller.

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Flip tax - GG101 Feb 12, 2016

Thank you. Understand about the sponsor. What about original shareholders who brought during the 'red herring' period? Commonly called insiders, as they rented in the building prior to the conversion to coop status. Can they be required to pay the flip tax as well?

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Co-op sources of income - Steven424 Feb 08, 2016

Maintenance: A co-op's mandated, continuous, and predictable source of income. Used to pay a buildings operating expenses.

General Assessment: A co-op's mandated but time-period-limited source of income. Usually established for a set period of months and used to pay for a co-op's one-time expenses like capital improvements and repairs.

R/E Tax Abatement Assessment: A procedure used by co-ops to offset the R/E tax abatement the Dept of Finance grants directly to shareholders. The abatement reduces the amount of annual R/E tax the co-op owes, but since the money saved by the abatement is supposed to be passed through by the co-op directly to shareholders, the co-op never sees any direct benefit from the abatement. The R/E Tax Abatement Assessment is usually enacted each year by co-ops and is calculated to be the same amount as the abatement. Thus the net effect of the abatement on the co-op's operating income is negligible.

Transfer "Flip" Tax: A fee imposed by a co-op on the transfer of its shares from seller to purchaser. It can be an absolute fixed amount, a fixed amount per share, a percentage of the purchase price, a percentage of the net sales income, or any other calculation based on the transaction. Transfer Tax should be used to "top off" capital reserve accounts. It should never be relied on when calculating a budget or predicting annual income, because it is completely unpredictable. If there are no sales during a year, there's no additional income.

Bottom line: Each source of income serves a different purpose and in most circumstances they are not interchangeable. In governing a co-op, income predictability is paramount and the different revenue streams should be relied on accordingly.

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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase or Assessment - info@askthepropertymanager.com Feb 05, 2016

Hello BBCA;

Higher maintenance is a somewhat permanent condition, and is not a competitive re-sale feature.

A one month assessment can be less of a deterrent to buyers,especially if they missed the assessment. However, if the one month assessment is an annual event, and is a 100% increase or more over the base maintenance charge, this could also be a negative re-sale feature.

The expense of the flip tax on the other hand, can always be negotiated between the buyer and the seller to accommodate the dynamics of the deal.

In summary, my recommendation would be for the board to impose a one month assessment if it is less than 100% above the base maintenance fee and to revisit the matter each year for potential change in the policy based on need, or surplus. The second, less desirable choice would be the flip tax. Raising the maintenance fees should be avoided if at all possible.

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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase or Assessment - info@askthepropertymanager.com Feb 05, 2016

Hello BBCA;

Higher maintenance is a somewhat permanent condition, and is not a competitive re-sale feature.

A one month assessment can be less of a deterrent to buyers,especially if they missed the assessment. However, if the one month assessment is an annual event, and is a 100% increase or more over the base maintenance charge, this could also be a negative re-sale feature.

The expense of the flip tax on the other hand, can always be negotiated between the buyer and the seller to accommodate the dynamics of the deal.

In summary, my recommendation would be for the board to impose a one month assessment if it is less than 100% above the base maintenance fee and to revisit the matter each year for potential change in the policy based on need, or surplus. The second, less desirable choice would be the flip tax. Raising the maintenance fees should be avoided if at all possible.

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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase or Assessment - info@askthepropertymanager.com Feb 05, 2016

Hello BBCA;

Higher maintenance is a somewhat permanent condition, and is not a competitive re-sale feature.

A one month assessment can be less of a deterrent to buyers,especially if they missed the assessment. However, if the one month assessment is an annual event, and is a 100% increase or more over the base maintenance charge, this could also be a negative re-sale feature.

The expense of the flip tax on the other hand, can always be negotiated between the buyer and the seller to accommodate the dynamics of the deal.

In summary, my recommendation would be for the board to impose a one month assessment if it is less than 100% above the base maintenance fee and to revisit the matter each year for potential change in the policy based on need, or surplus. The second, less desirable choice would be the flip tax. Raising the maintenance fees should be avoided if at all possible.

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Flip Tax v. Maintenance Increase or Assessment - info@askthepropertymanager.com Feb 05, 2016

Hello BBCA;

Higher maintenance is a somewhat permanent condition, and is not a competitive re-sale feature.

A one month assessment can be less of a deterrent to buyers,especially if they missed the assessment. However, if the one month assessment is an annual event, and is a 100% increase or more over the base maintenance charge, this could also be a negative re-sale feature.

The expense of the flip tax on the other hand, can always be negotiated between the buyer and the seller to accommodate the dynamics of the deal.

In summary, my recommendation would be for the board to impose a one month assessment if it is less than 100% above the base maintenance fee and to revisit the matter each year for potential change in the policy based on need, or surplus. The second, less desirable choice would be the flip tax. Raising the maintenance fees should be avoided if at all possible.

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flip tax - MK Mar 28, 2016

My coop imposed a 3 percent flip tax paid by the seller. The board did this to raise revenue and the results were unsatisfactory. No one wanted their maintenance to go up so the flip tax was the only way to raise revenue. It was irregular and inefficient, the buildings fell into disrepair. In order to rectify the situation 2 assessments were made permanent and a 14 percent maintenance increase on top of that. Needless to say I am not a fan of flip tax for needed revenue.

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