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Questions from a new Board Member - New Board Member Oct 04, 2011

Questions from a new Board Member

Being a new board member in co-op isn’t an easy job. I ask many questions and search for answers but still have a few questions that I would like to ask more experience board members to answer.

1. Which documents a board member is entitled to see?

2. Can a board member know manager’s monthly project plans for the upcoming month?

3. Is a manger required to present a monthly detailed financial report at each board meeting?

4. Does a board member have a right to free access to co-op financial information?

5. Is there any restriction for how long and when a board member can review financial information?

6. Should a board member be supervised by two management office employees while reading co-op monthly financial report?

7. Can a board member take notes during reviewing financial documents?

8. Should a board member have a full and free access to financial documents while co-op is taking multimillion dollars loan?

9. Is a manager required to answer shareholders’ letter? If yes, what is the time frame?


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I don't know the answers to all your questions. But this is what I do know: "a director of a corporation has an unqualified and absolute right to inspect all corporate books and records." That's a quote from an article to be found here:
http://www.stroock.com/SiteFiles/Pub240.pdf. This article goes on to cite specific case law. It's a must-read article for us newbie board members.

You might also want to review the responses to my BoardTalk post titled: Denying Board Member Right to Read Building-Related Contracts
- New Bd Member Jul 25, 2011.

Last, but by no means least, you will want to find out about the Alliance of Co-op and Condo Owners (ACCO), and once you find out about them you will want to join. Here's why I say that: I initially hired an attorney for answers to my questions. While awaiting my attorney's response, I got in touch with ACCO and received a wealth of information. Good thing, too, because my attorney's evaluation of my rights as a board member was completely wrong. Had I not connected with ACCO and heard what they had to say, I would have been inclined to trust the attorney's advice and walk away with my tail between my legs.

Sometimes, knowledge really is power.

Good luck.

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Thank you for the link. The article is great and now I do not have doubt about a board members rights!

However, the question is how to enforce a board members right to examine corporate records?

Do you have any idea how to do that?

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Hi, here's my answers based on how most of our client relationships are working throughout the years:

1. As a Board member you should have access to whatever books and records / documents you are requesting. Granted, these documents do not have to be mailed, emailed, or taken off premises from the Management office, the Management company should allow you to view the documents so long as they are given adequate notice and that you are able to view them in the place where they are kept. Some management companies keep PDF copies of most documents, so they can share what they feel comfortable with sharing digitally to save you a trip.

2. In terms of what is ongoing on a monthly basis, some managers keep spreadsheets of open items and the prior meeting will give you a good sense of what is coming up in the next month. The minutes from the last month's meeting or last few months meetings will show you what is ongoing, what is being bid out, what work is taking place, etc. The financial filings and routine payments of the bookkeeping staff are calendared out well in advance. You can always ask the manager to provide weekly or bi-weekly updates via email so that you can keep up with the times. The monthly management package should have information on what was being worked on in the past month since the last meeting.

3. This depends on the Board. Your contract with the management company should spell out the monthly obligations for the financial reports. Some buildings will receive them by the 10th of the month and some by the 20th. Whether or not the manager goes over those reports that were given out prior to the meeting at the actual meeting is up to the Board that you are on. Often, the treasurer will work with the company's controller to get a handle on exactly where you are at the time the report was made. The manager should always bring you up to speed with regards to shareholders who are negligent in monthly maintenance payments and any legal proceedings that are coming up or in process as a result.

4. As with my answer to #1, all Board members should have access to documents, but with prior notice and an understanding that the management company may ask you to visit their office.

5. There shouldn't be, but scheduling ahead with the company will help as they may need the conference room for another closing, meeting, etc.

6. I would think that standing guard would be unusual. We're all adults and on the honor system.

7. You should be able to take notes so that you can ask intelligent questions regarding the material that you have viewed.

8. it is the management company's responsibility to give you the correct information and the complete information for whatever options you are considering. You should have either your treasurer or a committee of the Board talking to the managing agent so that whatever options are given for a loan are backed up with hard numbers and facts. There is no other way for the Board to make a qualified decision.

9. Per the Prop Lease, any complaints are usually required to be in writing. At the very least, when in receipt of a written and signed letter, the Manager should acknowledge, in writing, that the letter was received and that either the issue was resolved or needs to be brought up with the Board. If they can get it out within a week of receiving the initial letter, that's even better.

Hope that helps.

Mark Levine
mblevine@ebmg.com
Excel Bradshaw Management Group, LLC

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Mark,
Thank you very much for the answers which confirm that my way of thinking is correct, just the way everything is done in my cooperative is wrong.

1. I as a board member cannot see all documents, especially monthly financial reports.

2. We are not informed by a manager on what projects is he working right now.

3. A manager is not giving us detailed monthly financial reports.

4. Right now we have a restriction that a board member in order to review financial information needs to sign a confidentiality agreement. Surprisingly, a manager does not need to sign it and have a free access to that information.

5 & 6. If a board member sign a confidentiality agreement, he/she can review financial record one an hour per week under close supervision of one management office employee.

7. Previously, we were told that we could not take notes. I questioned that and right now we can take notes.

8. Financial information is only for that board members who signed a confidentiality agreement.

9. Our manager does not answer shareholders’ letters!

As you see, everything is done in the opposite way.
Do you have any suggestions how to fix our co-op?

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From seeing what you've written you have one of two choices. Either the Board members who were there prior to you are enforcing this behavior to the management company and you can try to reason with them to overturn this or the management company is enforcing this rule without authority. If it's the latter, the Board has to make an effort to change this mode of operation or you have to look around for a new management company that has a bit more transparency on the agenda.

Mark B. Levine, RAM
mblevine@ebmg.com
Excel Bradshaw Management Group, LLC

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Housing Cost to Gross Income Ratio - jbm Oct 04, 2011

32 unit co-op in Brooklyn looking to establish a standard for the maximum ratio we should allow in reviewing a prospective buyer's finances. Any thoughts or experience on this. Have heard 30-33%

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confidentiality agreement - good idea or not - GG Oct 03, 2011

It is common among boards to sign a confidentiality agreement by board members? What should the agreement include? Do all board members need to sign it?
What will happen if one or few board members do not sign it? Do they still have right to review corporate documents or not?

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Personal shareholder matters should be kept confidential -- otherwise, everything can be shared with the Shareholders.
And infact, if there is noting to hide -- what is the need for a confidentiality agreement? When this was attempted by a Board member (who had reason to keep things secret) on advice from thier Lawyers -- board members refused to sign.

For about five years we had a "secret" board and we are still recovering from the problems that resulted in this board who did not abide by the bylaws, did not keep the board min, and did favors for friends -- such as no permits for renovations.... Like Washington, the more transparancy -- the better the Board. We now have complete transparancy -- and we have seen a very big diffrience in both the way the building is maintained -- and our finances.

The Board member who most wanted the confidentiality agreement -- as it has turned out -- is the biggest problem in our Coop. On legal advice, Board members refused to sign this agreement -- and that was the end of that..

As a Board member, who can be held legally responsibile for the decisions you make -- I should think you would want complete transparacy.
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I agree with you.
What would you say if a board have already passed a resolution (by majority) that board members who want to review co-op finance need to sign first a confidentiality agreement? It was done after I as a new board member wanted to know co-op financial situation. They made many obstacle for me to review books and finally made that resolution about the confidentiality agreement.

I need to say that I am the only one on the board interested in the co-op finances. The rest of the board members do not want to know financial information. So probably I would be the only one who will need to sign the confidentiality agreement. Isn’t that discrimination?

What if I do not sign and still having fiduciary responsibility want to review co-op finances?

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Buyout of rent-regulated tenant - Dillard Stone Sep 30, 2011

Has anyone here had experience with buying out a rent-regulated tenant in a coop? What if the tenant approaches you and ASKS to be bought out?

Specifically, I'm talking about a rent-controlled (NOT rent-stabilized) tenant in an apartment that's owned by the coop. Assuming the buyout goes through, the apartment will be sold as a standard cooperative unit, with all proceeds going into the coop's reserve fund.

What did you offer? What factors did you take into account in determining the price? Was your buyout successful?

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We recently sold three former renter units for record high prices for our complex after the renters move out and we completely the units. We sold two for $342k each (record high price for any unit) and one for $331k (record high price per share) - all two bedrooms. We spent an average of $40k each on renovations. The net proceeds went into capital funds and we are now repairing our roofs without a loan or an assessment.

We did not have to buy the renters out - they either passed away or moved into a nursing home.

If someone is asking you to buy them out, talk to your lawyer and accountant to see if $10k or $25k makes sense (or lower). It sounds like they are interested anyway so you may not have to pay top dollar to get them to move.

By they way, the quality of the renovation makes a huge difference. These units need to be renovated as an owner would revovate them and not as a rental owner would renovate them.

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Laundry Companies - Gerry Sep 29, 2011

Has anyone had experience with SEBCO?

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Windows - Michele Sep 26, 2011

Yep...another question. One of our condo owners does not like the windows he has in front of the house. So, he wants to put in something different. Not quite sure how to handle this: Shouldn't the windows in the complex all be of the same design? Does the owner have the right to put in any type of window? Can the board say no? Help.

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We recently replaced all of the complex's windows to dubble glazed, argon filled, R-42 casement windows from Skyline. The buildings have a great uniform look. Whenever I drive by Central Park West and see all those buildings with different windows in each unit - I think "Thank God I live in a Co-op".

Please think long and hard before allowing this - I suggest you drive by CPW and see the mess that creates - especially near 72nd street.

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If you read the lease, which I assume every condo has, just as every coop does, I suspect there are definite rules about what you can do to the outside of a building. The windows would be an obvious area you would probably find the owner cannot just decide to do his own thing on.

If a coop owner ignores the rules, the owner risks losing his lease (ie, can't live there--bye!) so the condo board needs to be vigilant in protecting the building. What next? He'll decide he wants the front door zebra striped, or painted with a confederate flag?

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Is Air Conditioning a Right or a Privilege? - Westchester Co-op Communicator Sep 24, 2011

Many co-op boards consider A/C units a privilege rather than a right. Can anyone explain the legal basis for such a policy?
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A privilege. In my co-op anyone with a window A/C pays $100 each season to have the A/C in a window. The reason is that water condensates may potentially damage the ornamental brick.

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A right. This is the 21st century. By any practical sense in the world, we have a right to a stove, a refrigerator, air conditioning, running water, toilet facilities and other hallmarks of a civilized society. Do we need anything of these things? No only in the most technical sense -- we could use a hot plate, keep food in a bucket of ice, etc. But in any civilized sense, yes, a/c is a right.

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It depends on your proprietary lease, black book and house rules. If they all silent then it is a privilege, if they are addressed then they would be a right based on what is written.

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Under the PL's lessor's responsibility, co-ops are 99.9% responsible for windows. Consequently, the prescription of use and rights of windows remain with the lessor or corporation. The lessee may be called to maintain the window and, in many co-ops, balances and other hardware may be identified with the responsiblity of the lessee to maintain or replace due to wear-and-tear. The installation of the A/C in a window may be prescribed by the co-op and the co-op may recover or charge for preventive work due to A/C drips caused by lessee A/C installed units.

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Under the PL's lessor's responsibility, co-ops are 99.9% responsible for windows. Consequently, the prescription of use and rights of windows remain with the lessor or corporation. The lessee may be called to maintain the window and, in many co-ops, balances and other hardware may be identified with the responsiblity of the lessee to maintain or replace due to wear-and-tear. The installation of the A/C in a window may be prescribed by the co-op and the co-op may recover or charge for preventive work due to A/C drips caused by lessee A/C installed units.

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NYARM Expo - Eric Michaels Sep 23, 2011

My company the Platinum Energy Group participated in its first NYARM Expo this past Wednesday and it was a great success. We have every reason to believe that the connections we made will result in business opportunities and that some will be significant. The entire NYARM team did a terrific job...from the logistics to day of event problem solving, they had it covered. We really appreciated their flexibility in allowing us to remain until almost 7:30 the night before so we could set up our booth...as opposed to kicking us out at 5pm as we feared.

Platinum Energy Group is one of, if not the only company of its kind in the tri-state area. Call or email me and I will enlighten you as to what differentiates us from everyone else. We are Platinum Energy: Identifying Opportunities, Recommending Technologies and Exceeding Expectations.

Have a wonderful weekend,
Eric

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I tried that-to no avail - MK Sep 23, 2011

I had a post about the inconsiderate neighbor. Basically her attitude was too bad in regard to her ac dripping on top of mine. I had gone to the management company and they did not address the issue, in fact the person who answered the phone said it was the most common complaint. They did nothing to remedy the situation and I actually sent them info on how I had remedied it myself so they could pass it along to other sleepless residents. I did not want to go to the board because this dimwit with the child like gang mentality was a board member at the time and I did not want battle royal on my hands.
So I spent the fist few months sleeping on the couch instead of the brand new bed I had purchased. The flower pot that I placed on the ac this summer was plastic and filled with brand new fluffy potting soil, because I have enough brain power to realize that a clay pot could crack someone’s skull if it were blown off. Now that she is no longer a board member I will be addressing it along with other issues. Basically she had a major crush on one of the board members and is reduced to a giggling ninny in his presence. I can only assume that if I had the Y chromosome she finds so appealing I would have gotten a different response. The thing is my window and screen were loaded with dirt at the end of the season and I could not even see out this window because of it. I am not going to stand for another year of this, am I not entitled to quiet enjoyment? She is also a laundry hog, we only have 3 washing machines and she loads all 3 at once. One evening when I went down there she was finishing up and she saw me waiting to use the machines. After removing her items she started loading another 2 machines and informed me she was not finished. At the annual board meeting the newest tenant complained about not having access to the machines (always full) and I regret that I did not join her. I do not think that this inconsiderate individual is taking in laundry for extra money because she has a decent job as a kindergarten teacher in NYC schools. I really despise this inconsiderate person. And at this point in time would like some of the hair from the dog that bit me. Also I have posted things in the lobby that I have downloaded from the net in regard to renovations without board approval and they are constantly removed and recently replaced with comments on how useless anger is. My posts contain no specifics on this particular building, just the legal facts and ramifications regarding renovations using unlicensed plumbers and electricians (the Super and his buds) without board approval. The author an attorney who specializes in real estate and it is very informative. I think that some of the people in this building have an attachment to the super who is doing all this illegal renovations and I am now the evil one (I just want to protect my interests). The managing agent said that perhaps they are happy with his work. I have put up with a lot here and I am fed up. It would be nice if they would just buy me out, then they can blow the place up for all I care. Anyhow I am now researching other properties; I don’t think this place stands much of a chance.

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First, calm down.
Rule 1: No one pays attention to those who rant in a co-op or in a column like this, or when speaking with management.
Rule 2: Never trust your thoughts to the superintendent as highlighted before.
Rule 3: People in your building, as despicable as they may seem, live in your same building. Try to be tolerant and address the problem in a rational manner. You may wish to approach the individual in question who may be doing something consciously or not and you shall find out if he/she is a person with whom you can get into an agreement. Otherwise, contact the management office and the board always trying to sound balanced.
Rule 5: Do not concentrate on gossip and trying to live someone else's lives. Personal issues and subjective perceptions have nothing to do with A/C's or your need to business. So focus on the problem.
Rule 6: If you find the co-op is not professionally run, try to run for a board position. If you look, act and speak in a rational manner, you may get the ear and goodwill of other residents and other board members.

Now that you know a trick or two on how to make your A/C silent "as the drop falls" , you may be able to pass the trick to others including management. Smile and enjoy your current residence!

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I think AdC (who responses I pay attention to) is pretty much on the mark. Never let your enemy know that you are hurting. Smile and wish them the best. What I have found to be successful when water dripped onto my ac unit from above was to glue a piece of old carpet to the top of my unit to cushion the sound and it worked fine. Also I do not recommend placing plants on top of your ac unit. Best of luck

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I think AdC (who responses I pay attention to) is pretty much on the mark. Never let your enemy know that you are hurting. Smile and wish them the best. What I have found to be successful when water dripped onto my ac unit from above was to glue a piece of old carpet to the top of my unit to cushion the sound and it worked fine. Also I do not recommend placing plants on top of your ac unit. Best of luck

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No way. Start with reading your proprietary lease--it probably says something like "no flowerpots" on outside window sills, for obvious reasons (a lightweight pot filled with dirt is no longer light weight, is it). Plus, how much weight do you need to dislodge an AC? If you want good neighbors, you need to be one.

PS: EAR PLUGS! They are magic. Signed: A/C above us drips onto ours, too. I need to try that carpet thing!

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Inconsiderate Neighbors - MK Sep 23, 2011

I recently purchased a co-op and discovered that a board member on top of me is a childish brat. Her air conditioner was leaking on to mine and I could not sleep in the bedroom because of it. I wrote her a note which I posted on her door asking if she could remedy the situation. In the note I mentioned that her AC was pouring onto mine. She apparently took issue with this and I received a nasty note informing me that AC drip in a very condescending tone. The fact is her AC was pouring when it first came on, and it then turned to a loud drip, eventually as the water cleared out the drips became more infrequent and less noisy. I never addressed it with her again because of her hostility towards me (aside from the note there are other things, she is a piece of work). I discussed this with the super and he informed me that she had said she was here first so it was too bad and I would have to place my AC in another window. He also informed me that he agreed with her claim that she was there first, so too bad. I told the super that there are devices that could divert the water. He came back and told me that she said if I wanted it I could pay for it myself. I told the super I was willing to pay for it. In my estimation it was worth it because I was sleeping in my living room. Since my super is a useless and ignorant creep nothing ever happened. This year I remedied the situation by placing a plastic pot on top of the AC and filling it with dirt. I was able to sleep in my bedroom but was peeved that I had to endure this bullshit. When the AC came out my sill was full of dirt and my screen covered with it. The super said he thought it was a great solution, and I told him that I thought it would be better if I had a considerate neighbor.
From what I can gather about her, the response would have been much different if I were in possession of a Y chromosome. She is no longer a member of the board and gave up on trying seducing one of the members who is in possession of a Y. I actually feel sorry for this gentleman because there are 2 former board members who had the hots for him.
The other one informed me as to the salary of another resident who has a Y and is considered one of the 2 building studs. When she first started to reveal to me this info (which she refers to as his vitals) I told her I did not want to know and she shut up. But then in a subsequent conversation she blurted it out. She was on the board when I was approved and I can only imagine what she has to say about me. The lack of professionalism and gang mentality is really more than I can bear. Any suggestions?

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This is a common problem due to condensation of A/C units and the fact that people throw out the nozzle that usually comes with the A/C so that water may be sent outside with minimal inconvenience to the building brick or other units.

Use a planter or pot is WRONG. First, wind may make it fall down to the ground and you do not wish to be involved in an accident. Consequently, you can use a magnet sheet (similar to those use for business cards fastened to a piece of insulation board or styrofoam which happens to be inpermeable. Place it over your A/C with the magnet down (of course) so that it can adhere to the A/C box and...voila!

Finally, you do not solve resident issues through your superintendent. You go to your PROPERTY MANAGER for solutions and communications. If your building is small and the resident above is not able to cooperate with you and there is no property manager, then GO TO THE BOARD for solutions. A three-ring circus is not the way to communicate and the super is only taking care of operations - cleaning, repairing, taking care of boilers, etc. He/she is not hired to lend an ear to resident problems or do human relations and acting as resident mediator. Sometimes, supers will side with those who will tip him/her well during holidays or employ him/her regularly. Therefore, do not share with the super anything that he/she may use against you.

Good luck!

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